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Kudos0

Identity Safe Update-Why is the Local Vault No Longer an Option?

I've read a lot of these threads about the update, and like most others, I'm not going to use ID Safe until it changes back.  But, I have a question:  Why is the local vault no longer an option?  From what I can figure out, I must convert to an online vault, and do not want to do that.

We read about data breaches almost everyday from different companies.  Holy Cow, what if Norton is breached and everyone's websites, passwords,logins and banking/investing log-in credentials was released?

I personally do not want an online vault.  I understand the flexibility, but just not required for me.  Like many others, I'll just let Chrome remember my passwords from now on.

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Kudos0

Re: Identity Safe Update-Why is the Local Vault No Longer an Option?

Hello Flamer97 Its funny how the misconceptions go with password managers and vaults. Google Chrome does the exact same thing as Norton. Synching across multiple devices using your account and is in the cloud. Nothing different than Norton except Norton periodically saves a copy of your vault on your local hard drive. So what if Google were to become compromised? Same same. Best practices are the best protection in today's environment.

Chrome: https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6197437?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en

Cheers

"From DOS to Windows10 what a journey it has been" / MS Certified Professional / Windows 10 Home / Professional x 64 version 1903 / build 18362.175 / N360 Deluxe 22.17.2.47 / Norton Core v.282 on Android 2.00
Kudos0

Re: Identity Safe Update-Why is the Local Vault No Longer an Option?

SoulAsylum,

Thanks for that info.  I agree completely about best practices.

I never stay logged into my Google account, (or at least I did not think I did).  It turns out that most of my passwords are not tied to my Google account...but alas...I must have stayed logged in several times, because there are many that are stored in Google's cloud.  Ouch.  

Thanks again for the help with my misconception.  I'm thinking of just going back to writing them down.

Kudos0

Re: Identity Safe Update-Why is the Local Vault No Longer an Option?

Actually in the newest build of Chrome when you close Chrome you will see an icon appear in the system tray where Chrome remains running in the background. The setting can be disabled in the browsers settings though. Have a great day and weekend.

Cheers

"From DOS to Windows10 what a journey it has been" / MS Certified Professional / Windows 10 Home / Professional x 64 version 1903 / build 18362.175 / N360 Deluxe 22.17.2.47 / Norton Core v.282 on Android 2.00
Kudos0

Re: Identity Safe Update-Why is the Local Vault No Longer an Option?

We read about data breaches almost everyday from different companies.  Holy Cow, what if Norton is breached and everyone's websites, passwords,logins and banking/investing log-in credentials was released?

FWIW  The information that is stored on Norton's ID Safe servers is encrypted. The only way to get the data decrypted is by first logging into your Norton Account. So any data hacks of those servers would end up with no readable data, just gibberish. 

Things happen. Export/Backup your Norton Password Manager data.
Kudos0

Re: Identity Safe Update-Why is the Local Vault No Longer an Option?

The Local Vault is only available with IE.

I updated my systems to W10 1803 and I had removed NSBU before the update.

After installing NSBU and updating to 22.14.0.54 I was able to add my Local vault back.

When login to my Local vault it does prompt to convert to Online vault but I just close the window and all is well.

You need a copy of IDDStore2.dat which is the Local vault. Hopefully you have a backup of this file. 

https://community.norton.com/en/forums/retaining-your-local-vault 

Jim 

Kudos0

Re: Identity Safe Update-Why is the Local Vault No Longer an Option?

peterweb:

We read about data breaches almost everyday from different companies.  Holy Cow, what if Norton is breached and everyone's websites, passwords,logins and banking/investing log-in credentials was released?

FWIW  The information that is stored on Norton's ID Safe servers is encrypted. The only way to get the data decrypted is by first logging into your Norton Account. So any data hacks of those servers would end up with no readable data, just gibberish. 

That assumes that no one at Norton or at the server farm in God-knows-where is pulling anything, and that no outside hacker will ever get the hash table and brute-force it. As it is with the local vault we have to trust that Norton has not put in any backdoors or spybots, that Norton is not hand-in-glove with Homeland Security and stores the unencoded passwords someplace, etc., etc. But at least with the local vault I don't have to worry about a third party.

Kudos0

Re: Identity Safe Update-Why is the Local Vault No Longer an Option?

I'm sure that the ID Safe vaults are on one set of servers, the Norton Account details on another set of servers. So a hacker would have to get through at least two sets of security protections to hack two sets of servers.

Is anything online 100% secure? Obviously not. That is why I have held onto my local vault as long as I have. Users obviously have to decide who they trust with their information. I do have a cloud vault for testing purposes, but I never, ever put my banking information into a password manager. 

Is Norton going to change their mind? No way that I can see. Almost every ID Safe user that has posted here has pleaded Norton to return to the local vault, but it has fallen on deaf ears. Sorry it is not what you want to hear. Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just a user like you.

Things happen. Export/Backup your Norton Password Manager data.
Kudos1 Stats

Re: Identity Safe Update-Why is the Local Vault No Longer an Option?

I share your feelings about losing the Local Safe. Another point, my Safe data is mine! Symantec should not be dictating to me how and where I am storing my personal data, that is my decision to make, not Symantec's!!

Kudos0

Re: Identity Safe Update-Why is the Local Vault No Longer an Option?

Symantec should not be dictating to me how and where I am storing my personal data, that is my decision to make, not Symantec's!!

And you do have the final say. If you do not like where Norton stores your vault, you do not have to use that feature. There are plenty of options out there. Although not sure if anyone is still using local vaults.

Things happen. Export/Backup your Norton Password Manager data.
Kudos0

Re: Identity Safe Update-Why is the Local Vault No Longer an Option?

Permalink still going in wrong.  I was told what to do but now it did not do the right quote.  I want THIS:
And you do have the final say. If you do not like where Norton stores your vault, you do not have to use that feature. There are plenty of options out there. Although not sure if anyone is still using local vaults

I WOULD be using my Local Vault IF NORTON would allow it, but Norton essentially has stopped any use of Local Vault no matter what we want.  

Kudos0

Re: Identity Safe Update-Why is the Local Vault No Longer an Option?

g_cafe_c 

Permalink still going in wrong.  I was told what to do but now it did not do the right quote.  I want THIS:

Check this thread again. https://community.norton.com/en/comment/7865911#comment-7865911  

You do not click on Permalink, but on the Reply link below the post you want to quote from.

Things happen. Export/Backup your Norton Password Manager data.

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