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Kudos0

IDSS can be used to manage a fingerprint sensor

Hi Everyone!

As fare as I know that biometric security applications are used to manage  biometric devices, such fingerprint reader, So, biometric security software are as follows: 
1- HP Simple Pass powred by AuthenTec 6.x series 
2- HP Simple Pass powred by Softex 8.x series 
3- digital persona software

The Fingerprint Sensor device talks to biometric security application, and biometric security application talks to Fingerprint Sensor device.
So, the fingerprint sensor in supported notebook models that are running a supported operating system scans fingerprints for use with biometric security applications.
I am using HP Simple Pass software as biometric security software to manage fingerprint sensor.  I have enrolled a finger in the database of HP Simple Pass, which can be swiped over the fingerprint sensor.
However, I didn't see Norton Identity Safe Standalone(IDSS) can be used to manage fingerprint sensor.

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Kudos1 Stats

Re: IDSS can be used to manage a fingerprint sensor

The ID Safe for Windows was never designed to work with a fingerprint sensor. And as the IDSS has been discontinued, there will not be any updates to the feature.

AFAIK the mobile versions of ID Safe work with the fingerprint sensors on mobile devices.

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Kudos0

Re: IDSS can be used to manage a fingerprint sensor

peterweb:

The ID Safe for Windows was never designed to work with a fingerprint sensor. And as the IDSS has been discontinued, there will not be any updates to the feature.

AFAIK the mobile versions of ID Safe work with the fingerprint sensors on mobile devices.

Thanks a lot,

Then IDSS is not considered a biometric security software. AFAIK, Biometric security software allows you to access websites and enter passwords by the use of a biometric device on your computer.

If the IDSS has been discontinued, then its extensions would be no longer supported and functioning on all browsers. 

It'll be a big issue if the IDSS has been discontinued and been no longer functioning on browsers.

Kudos0

Re: IDSS can be used to manage a fingerprint sensor

@cooperator,

FWIW - here is additional info re: IDSS no longer available for download:

https://community.norton.com/en/forums/standalone-version-norton-identit...

Kudos0

Re: IDSS can be used to manage a fingerprint sensor

If the IDSS has been discontinued, then its extensions would be no longer supported and functioning on all browsers. 

Are referring to the new browser extensions as being IDSS? They are not what is considered IDSS. Either way, they were not designed with biometric features for the Windows versions. Adding this for the new browser extensions might be a good suggestion for the Product Suggestions board https://community.norton.com/forums/product-suggestions

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Kudos0

Re: IDSS can be used to manage a fingerprint sensor

Thanks a lot to all of you. Yes, but what would one do with their IDSS data backed up over time since these data backup files are only in file format types which can only be imported into a IDSS vault? Why whenever we got used with using an Identity protection app, then we was told it was discountined?

Kudos0

Re: IDSS can be used to manage a fingerprint sensor

Why whenever we got used with using an Identity protection app, then we was told it was discountined?

The older ID Safe being discontinued was mandated by the browser developers no longer allowing the methods used by the older ID Safe. ie, They have pushed third party extension developers to abandon add on toolbars, which was the way the old ID Safe was incorporated into the browsers.  As long as you still have the IDSS installed, it should still work with IE, because MS has pretty much abandoned any updating of IE in favor of the new Edge browser.

but what would one do with their IDSS data backed up over time since these data backup files are only in file format types which can only be imported into a IDSS vault?

I'll let @yank comment here as he has experience with the IDSS version. Unless you are able to export the vault in .csv format, there is not much that can be done with the old vault contents backups.

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Kudos0

Re: IDSS can be used to manage a fingerprint sensor

Thanks a lot, The IDSS extension is still shown on my Google Chrome. Though Ghrom always is updated. I am asking how to benefit from data backup files created by IDSS if discontinued since these files cannot be imported into other identity protection apps.

Kudos0

Re: IDSS can be used to manage a fingerprint sensor

No exactly sure what cooperator is looking for:

Locating a backup of their IDSS and then perhaps Importing it into an ID Safe Vault associated with a retail Norton product - or Importing an IDSS backup into another Password manager?  

Something else we'll need to know is if there was ever an Online Vault set-up with a retail Norton Product and if that vault was associated with a different Norton Account than the IDSS Account was associated with.  In other words did each Vault (Retail and IDSS) have a different user name (email address). 

Once we know exactly what the objective is, we may be able to provide more info. 

Kudos0

Re: IDSS can be used to manage a fingerprint sensor

Yank:

No exactly sure what cooperator is looking for:

Locating a backup of their IDSS and then perhaps Importing it into an ID Safe Vault associated with a retail Norton product - or Importing an IDSS backup into another Password manager?  

Something else we'll need to know is if there was ever an Online Vault set-up with a retail Norton Product and if that vault was associated with a different Norton Account than the IDSS Account was associated with.  In other words did each Vault (Retail and IDSS) have a different user name (email address). 

Once we know exactly what the objective is, we may be able to provide more info. 

Thanks a lot, Yank. 

As you may have noticed that some other contributor "peterweb" here told that IDSS had been discontinued, I have been asking and looking for a solution for importing data backup files created by IDSS into another password manager if IDSS got discontinued. If no, then I must re-type manually all usernames and passwords of websites saved into the IDSS if I am going to use another password manager.

Kudos0

Re: IDSS can be used to manage a fingerprint sensor

@cooperator

Still need answer to following:

"Something else we'll need to know is if there was ever an Online Vault set-up with a retail Norton Product and if that vault was associated with a different Norton Account than the IDSS Account was associated with.  In other words did each Vault (Retail and IDSS) have a different user name (email address). "

IDSS (as clearly stated before) has not been discontinued - just no longer available for download and will not be updated beyond it's current version if you have it installed and are using it.

Can you tell us which other password manager you are considering?

Kudos0

Re: IDSS can be used to manage a fingerprint sensor

yank:

@cooperator

Still need answer to following:

"Something else we'll need to know is if there was ever an Online Vault set-up with a retail Norton Product and if that vault was associated with a different Norton Account than the IDSS Account was associated with.  In other words did each Vault (Retail and IDSS) have a different user name (email address). "

IDSS (as clearly stated before) has not been discontinued - just no longer available for download and will not be updated beyond it's current version if you have it installed and are using it.

Can you tell us which other password manager you are considering?

Thanks a lot,

I am going to consider HP Simplepass powered by Softex incorporated. Though this is not working as well as IDSS does. No way to manually save credentials of my account at any website into HP Simple Pass vault. Sometimes, HP Simple Pass doesn't prompt if I need to swipe the enrolled finger over fingerprint reader device to log in to my account although the credentials of my account are saved into the vault, and the settings are set up to use HP Simple Pass to sing in to website accounts I visit.

The most issue with two password manager apps, IDSS and HP SimplePass is the exported data file is with different file format type "HP SimplePass Import-Export User File (.opi)

However, the IDSS is with 'dat' or 'vct'. So, how could I import IDSS vault data backup file into a HP Simple vault.

Kudos1 Stats

Re: IDSS can be used to manage a fingerprint sensor

The .dat and .vct files were encrypted for a reason. Security. In case the files got into the wrong hands, they would be unreadable and useless. As such, they were not designed to be able to be imported into another password manager. The only the .CSV files can be read and manipulated. 

Do you still have the IDSS still installed? If so see if you can export to .CSV format.

One work around that I found when changing from one password manager to another was to run both in parallel. As long as the HP password manager prompts to save new passwords you just navigate to each site you want to save the password. Then use IDSS to log into the site, and the HP software should prompt to save the password. Takes time, but would save typing.

If HP does not auto save new logins then I'm out of ideas.

Things happen. Export/Backup your Norton Password Manager data.
Kudos0

Re: IDSS can be used to manage a fingerprint sensor

peterweb:

The .dat and .vct files were encrypted for a reason. Security. In case the files got into the wrong hands, they would be unreadable and useless. As such, they were not designed to be able to be imported into another password manager. The only the .CSV files can be read and manipulated. 

Do you still have the IDSS still installed? If so see if you can export to .CSV format.

One work around that I found when changing from one password manager to another was to run both in parallel. As long as the HP password manager prompts to save new passwords you just navigate to each site you want to save the password. Then use IDSS to log into the site, and the HP software should prompt to save the password. Takes time, but would save typing.

If HP does not auto save new logins then I'm out of ideas.

Thanks a lot,

Sometimes HP Simple Pass powered by Softex saves new logins automatically for some websites I visit if the option 'automatically remember all my websites' is checked. With Some websites, such as(https://login.live.com/login, and https://login.norton.com/)  I am not prompted whether I let HP SimplePass save logins or not if the option is checked.

However, if the option above isn't picked up, then it doesn't prompt whether I want to save the password or not. I think I should be prompted if I want HP SimplePass to save logins or not even if the the option 'automatically remember all my websites' is NOT checked.

Besides, the HP SimplePass doesn't allow me to save them manually. 

Another issue with HP Simple Pass cannot be minimized, which means I have to exit it if I needed to let it be hidden out of the desktop screen. Also, and its session time is a 10 seconds-long period, and I am seen  'To protect against access to your websites and passwords, your current HP SimplePass session has timed out'. This cannot be set up.

Final point I noticed with HP Simple Pass is if I have many accounts on the same url, then the HP Simple Pass only saves only one account which I got logged in to it firstly. However, IDSS can save as many accounts as I have even with the same url as long as the username/email is different.

Kudos0

Re: IDSS can be used to manage a fingerprint sensor

@cooperator

I am sorry, but I am not here to discuss HP Simple Pass, but have done some experimenting with IDSS - if you are still interested.

I had a saved copy of IDDS (NortonIdentitySafe-EN-v1) in my downloads folder on my WIN 7 sysytem.  I opened it and elected to let it run for the install.  It did install OK and asked me for my Norton Account - or to Create a Norton Account.  I had an old Norton Account  (Gmail address) that I used before with IDSS.  So I logged into Norton using the Gmail account and it's password and then entered the Vault Password for that account.  IDSS logged me in and the usual Settings options came up using the COG Icon on the Logins page.  I selected the Import/Export Tab and followed the "here" under Automatic Exports and located .DAT files (no.vct files).  So I did have .dat files available to Import into a retail Norton Product Vault.

I then selected .CSV under the Export section of the Import/Export Tab, entered my vault password and had an option to save my passwords in MY Documents appear and I had a .CSV Formatted file I could then open, read, manipulate using Excel (or others) and possibly Import into another password manager as @peterweb suggested.

Hopefully the above is helpful.     

Kudos0

Re: IDSS can be used to manage a fingerprint sensor

Thanks for testing yank.

cooperator

Any shortcomings in the HP product you would have to address with HP.

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Kudos0

Re: IDSS can be used to manage a fingerprint sensor

Thanks a lot both of you, The most issue with two password manager apps, IDSS and HP SimplePass is the exported data file is with different file format type. HP SimplePass has an Import-Export User File (.opi)" However, the IDSS is with 'dat' or 'vct', orb.CSV. So, how could I import IDSS vault data backup file into a HP Simple vault or any other password manager? Even .CSV cannot be imported into a password manager unless it accepts .CSV. Do you mean I can convert .CSV to .OPI, for instance, and import it into HP SimplePass?

Kudos0

Re: IDSS can be used to manage a fingerprint sensor

As we have mentioned to you, a .dat file cannot be imported into any other password manager because it is encrypted. No password manager is going to share the encryption key with another product.

The only way to import the .csv files is if the new password manager has that capability. It is up to each password manager what features they include.

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