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Kudos0

NS Shows Excellent Results In Self-Protection Test

NS receives high scores in AV-Test's recent Self-Protection Test,

IMHO this is a critical element in the security offered by any Internet Security Suite.

http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/security-software/329844-which-antivirus-...

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Kudos0

Re: NS Shows Excellent Results In Self-Protection Test

hok,

Thanks for the link.

Regarding self protection, the pcmag article mentions two technologies used: DEP (data execution protection) and ASLR (address space layout randomization). The pcmag article says this:

Given that enabling these protective mechanisms is just a matter of flipping a compiler switch, why would vendors ignore them? AV-Test got a number of answers. Some vendors used third-party libraries that weren't compiled with security on. Some reported using proprietary security technology not compatible with DEP and ASLR. And some stated that certain files aren't actively used by the program, so they don't matter.

The pcmag article also refers to tests performed by the AV-Test Institute. When I looked at the results of the AV-Test comparisons, their chart listed "Norton Security 2014 & 2015". When I drilled down (double clicked) on the Norton Security item, the version was listed as "2014 & 2015". See here.

We all know that the 2014 product is completely different than the 2015 product. So it is hard to understand exactly what Symantec product was represented in the AV-Test results.

What we do know for sure is that we continue to wait for Symantec to address several major issues with the new Norton Security. See here, here, and here.

Kudos0

Re: NS Shows Excellent Results In Self-Protection Test

I see a few others like AVG that shows 2014 & 2015. I think they used NIS 2014 in Sept and NS 2015 in Oct. They did allow the software to use its Cloud functions. Sure would like to see the results without access to the Cloud but not sure how these tests are run.

Jim

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Re: NS Shows Excellent Results In Self-Protection Test

PhoneMan:

 I think they used NIS 2014 in Sept and NS 2015 in Oct. They did allow the software to use its Cloud functions. Sure would like to see the results without access to the Cloud but not sure how these tests are run.

Jim

Jim,

I totally agree with you about the lack of an offline test in the AV-Test results ... would be nice to see that test run for all products.

If AV-Test combined multiple product versions into one result, it's hard to tell which version contributed to the end results on the summary page.

But two products did achieve perfect scores in all three of the tested categories (protection, performance, and usability). The two products were: Avira Antivirus Pro 2015 and Kaspersky Internet Security 2015.

Given the results shown for the combined Norton Security 2014 & 2015, I don't see a compelling reason at this time to transition any of my computers from NIS 2014 to NS 2015. Unless the outstanding issues with NS are resolved, I'll remain on NIS 2014 until subscription runs out, then use AV-TEST site (and other independent comparison sites) to find a replacement for Symantec products (currently those test sites rate Symantec high ... but other products higher).

Kudos2 Stats

Re: NS Shows Excellent Results In Self-Protection Test

geek47:

[...]
We all know that the 2014 product is completely different than the 2015 product. So it is hard to understand exactly what Symantec product was represented in the AV-Test results.
[...]

They aren't completely different products. The more mundane reason for the Marketing spin is that the Norton licensing infrastructure can't handle the upgrade process to Norton Security automatically due to the change in the licensed user/device coverage eg. 3 users/PC only to 5 users/multi-device or 3 users/PC only to 10 users/multi-device. Hence Symantec's recommendation that users stay with their existing product until their subscription expires or contact Support if they want to upgrade to the new Norton Security products now (manual upgrade process).

Kudos0

Re: NS Shows Excellent Results In Self-Protection Test

elsewhere:

They aren't completely different products.

elsewhere,

Does NIS 2014 have the same potential exposure when running offline as Norton Security has?

Kudos4 Stats

Re: NS Shows Excellent Results In Self-Protection Test

Here is a statement from AV-TEST on the Sept- Oct tests.

During September and October 2014 we continuously evaluated 24 home user security products using their default settings. We always used the most current publicly-available version of all products for the testing.

NS 2015 did not become publicly-available until Sept 22, so I will assume the results for Sept were NIS 2014 and the results for Oct were for NS 2015. They both performed the same. My NIS 2014 expires on Dec 14 but already have a new key so will stay with NIS 2014 until NS 2015 is more mature. Looks like they both give the same level of protection on these test. More test by other organizations will be coming out this year.

Jim

Kudos0

Re: NS Shows Excellent Results In Self-Protection Test

geek47:
elsewhere:

They aren't completely different products.

elsewhere,

Does NIS 2014 have the same potential exposure when running offline as Norton Security has?

Hi, geek47. As soon as I log on, I run Live Update until no more are found, From then on, I leave it to NIS to do it's thing, re updates.

Given the definitions are being updated frequently and are stored locally, I feel that the level of protection offered by NIS when offline, is fine.

Sonar is heuristic in its operation, so you still have that level of protection in both NS and NIS. I stick to NIS, as I prefer my definitions to be local !

Windows 10 Home X 64
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Re: NS Shows Excellent Results In Self-Protection Test

geek47:
elsewhere:

They aren't completely different products.

elsewhere,

Does NIS 2014 have the same potential exposure when running offline as Norton Security has?

Yes, it does have the same potential exposure. Here are the results of some testing that PRIOR and I were discussing around mid-October:

Norton Security - SONAR test - with internet connection:

http://youtu.be/a54FgWOeOdQ

Norton Security - SONAR test - without internet connection:

http://youtu.be/GRFY7ebfEs8

Norton Internet Security - SONAR test - with internet connection:

http://youtu.be/8_Vi0llEw-o

Norton Internet Security - SONAR test - without internet connection:

http://youtu.be/hLn9k_zbwHA

Kudos0

Re: NS Shows Excellent Results In Self-Protection Test

Thanks elsewhere.

Previously, I had assumed that Norton Security's exposure when running offline was new. I did not realize that the older Norton Internet Security has the same exposure.

Kudos0

Re: NS Shows Excellent Results In Self-Protection Test

Maybe elsewhere and PRIOR, should develop the new NS !

Windows 10 Home X 64
Kudos0

Re: NS Shows Excellent Results In Self-Protection Test

F4E:

Maybe elsewhere and PRIOR, should develop the new NS !

They were both busy beta testers.

A little bit of knowledge is... well a little bit of knowledge.
Kudos0

Re: NS Shows Excellent Results In Self-Protection Test

All the more reason, Krusty ! They'd do a better job !

Windows 10 Home X 64

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