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Re: FireFox 41 Security/Vulnerability Improvements/Fixes ??

Hi :-) From what I have read, FF 41, in addition to breaking many current FF extensions, adds some new features and speed improvements I have no burning desire for. So on that part of the upgrade I am not heartbroken over the Norton Toolbar Issue and staying with FF 40.

Does anyone know if FF 41 also includes any major vulnerability fixes and/or security improvements?

[I was lucky. My FF options page was set to update automatically but it hadn't yet. I usually have it set to "check for but don't install." There is a click-on "Upgrade to FF 41" in the Help>About Tab. :-) I was totally unaware of FF 41 and the Norton Toolbar Issue until tonight. It is an unfortunate situation.It is my understanding that info about the FF XPCOM change was available several months ago.]

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Re: Re: FireFox 41 Security/Vulnerability Improvements/Fixes ??

A little bit of knowledge is... well a little bit of knowledge.
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Re: Re: FireFox 41 Security/Vulnerability Improvements/Fixes ??

You're welcome, hawki hok. 
 

A little bit of knowledge is... well a little bit of knowledge.
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Re: Re: FireFox 41 Security/Vulnerability Improvements/Fixes ??

I am now using Bitdefender IS 2016. I was sent an email from Bitdefender last week offering a 6 month trial license. I suppose, if Symantec's projection is correct, the standard 30 day trial period would suffice.

I felt that the security upgrades in FF 41 were important enough to do this.

I feel Symantec's laying back on it's heels on this is rather shameful behavior for a major international home and end point security company. What'cha been doin the past four months to be ready for this ???? This was not a surprise.

Kaspersky has been notorious for taking forever in updating it's browser protections to keep up with FF Updates. But with KIS, other layers of protection within KIS protected the user from whatever shortcomings of an outdated browser protection module existed. That is not the case with Norton Security. For example, I am unaware of redundant protection from a phishing exploit or redirect within NS  where you might unknowingly give up valuable financial info and your PWs and User ID's etc. on a compromised website or legitimate looking ad. No thank you. Website redirects and popular ad programs on well known and trusted websites have become a major playground for cybercriminal redirects, and phising exploits. Every day we read of another major ad program and website having been invaded by cyber-criminals.

Symantec. What were you thinking the past 4 months? Or were you not thinking at all??  Oh I know. It's a short-term bottom line issue, the XPCOM elimination was only in betas and no telling if they would be in the official release so why waste all that time and money. Better to put your customers at risk than Symantec's bottom line.

See yeahs when you again offer the web protection to FireFox users that existed prior to FF  41. I like NS and will miss it, but will not stay with it during a period of time my security is not the best I can get.

Please no "this is a major change" "Symantec wants the time to put a a well tested secure product - the best upgrade it can" comments. I know that. That's why they should have started months ago.

I will reinstall NS when the new toolbar is released. I will miss NS while I rely on BD,one of the best anti-malware engines housed in junk software :-(  BD needs to include a can of Raid with each sale to get rid of the forever persistent bugs in it's software. Those bugs are annoying, but they typically do not compromise protection.

I have used NS because for me it has almost always worked flawlessly, never has conflicted with any other program on my system, and never has caused any problems on my system.  I do not know of any other "top shelf" security suite I can say that about. Oh, I forgot to mention, I have never had my PC infected with malware while using any of the "New Norton" products. Symantec produces an excellent product when it directs it's energies and resources to it.

So get on it Symantec. A 110% effort is required now.

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Re: Re: FireFox 41 Security/Vulnerability Improvements/Fixes ??

A little bit of knowledge is... well a little bit of knowledge.
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Re: Re: FireFox 41 Security/Vulnerability Improvements/Fixes ??

Maybe using the toolbar is generally a bad idea... Maybe browser independent methodes used by ESET or BD are better?
 

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Re: Re: FireFox 41 Security/Vulnerability Improvements/Fixes ??

I'm to the point of making a hard copy of my passwords and switching to Trend Micro or some other brand...

...simply because Norton a) doesn't keep up with Firefox and b) has been sending out notifications that it's dropping features left and right this year...

Kudos0

Re: Re: FireFox 41 Security/Vulnerability Improvements/Fixes ??

I am using FF ESR 38.3 as an alternate to FF 41. Read my post here.

https://community.norton.com/en/comment/6694971#comment-6694971

Jim

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Re: Re: FireFox 41 Security/Vulnerability Improvements/Fixes ??

Kaspersky has been notorious for taking forever in updating it's browser protections to keep up with FF Updates. But with KIS, other layers of protection within KIS protected the user from whatever shortcomings of an outdated browser protection module existed. That is not the case with Norton Security. For example, I am unaware of redundant protection from a phishing exploit or redirect within NS  where you might unknowingly give up valuable financial info and your PWs and User ID's etc. on a compromised website or legitimate looking ad. No thank you. Website redirects and popular ad programs on well known and trusted websites have become a major playground for cybercriminal redirects, and phising exploits. Every day we read of another major ad program and website having been invaded by cyber-criminals.

Whoa, do I read that right that if a user doesn't have the Norton Toolbar extension installed on FF41, then he has no browser (phishing, redirect) protection?

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Re: Re: FireFox 41 Security/Vulnerability Improvements/Fixes ??

Firefox has it's own built in protection, but I believe that is correct.  Without the toolbar you will not have Norton phishing protection, nor Safe Web annotations in search results.

A little bit of knowledge is... well a little bit of knowledge.
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Re: Re: FireFox 41 Security/Vulnerability Improvements/Fixes ??

As noted before, in the interim you can always use the Norton DNS servers.

Heck, use them anyway !

https://dns.norton.com/configurePC.html

Windows 10 Home X 64
Kudos0

Re: Re: FireFox 41 Security/Vulnerability Improvements/Fixes ??

Thanks Krusty13 and F4E. Good to know that FF has its own anti-phishing, I'll rely on that for my own browsing. My wife only just started using FF and will probably put more trust in Norton, so I'll probably set her up with the Norton DNS instead.

Both of us will miss the Safe Web "seal of approval" in search results, though.

Kudos0

Re: Re: FireFox 41 Security/Vulnerability Improvements/Fixes ??

Hello JorgeA

Safe Web is slated the last I heard to be part of the first part of the new Norton Toolbar for Firefox 41 around the end of Oct. The end of Oct. is in 2 weeks, so hopefully, you won't have too long to go without it. You could use WOT or some other free substitute in the mean time also.

Thanks.

Success always occurs in private and failure in full view. Windows 10 Pro 64 bit Norton Core Security Plus 22.17.3.50 Core Firmware 282 I E 11 Chrome latest version.
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Re: Re: FireFox 41 Security/Vulnerability Improvements/Fixes ??

JorgeA:
Kaspersky has been notorious for taking forever in updating it's browser protections to keep up with FF Updates. But with KIS, other layers of protection within KIS protected the user from whatever shortcomings of an outdated browser protection module existed...

Whoa, do I read that right that if a user doesn't have the Norton Toolbar extension installed on FF41, then he has no browser (phishing, redirect) protection?

Hi JorgeA:

Users asked a similar question in phat monkey's thread Norton 360 Toolbar is Crashing Firefox on Close and the response from a Symantec employee was:

"You will still have protection for in-browser attacks/drive-by-downloads and protection for malicious downloads (downloads done in the browser gets scanned and you will have Download Insight protection).

You will not have Norton protection for phishing and certain scam websites - you will have what the browser itself provides; you will not have Safeweb markups that can warn you away from dangerous pages - however you can opt to temporarily use the safesearch.ask.com website - it will supply warning markup on search results for you without the Norton toolbar."

I can't speak to the advantages of Kaspersky vs Norton for browser protection, but as Krusty13 noted, an up-to-date Firefox browser has built-in protection for phishing and scam websites (Tools | Options | Security | General | Block reported attack sites / Block reported web forgeries) that duplicates most of the functionality of Norton Safe Web - see the Mozilla support article How Does Built-in Phishing and Malware Protection Work?  One feature that Firefox doesn't duplicate is Norton Safe Web's display of site rating icons in browser search results, but I've installed the Web of Trust (WOT) extension to replace this lost functionality.  If you use Norton Identity Safe to manage your login passwords there are other good alternatives as well - see PC Magazine's article The Best Free Password Managers for 2015.

I deliberately disabled my Norton Toolbar v2014.7.12.x in May 2015 to fix a problem with frequent Firefox crashes and haven't missed it at all.
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32-bit Vista Home Premium SP2 * Firefox 41.0.2 * NIS 2014 v21.7.0.11 * NTB v2014.7.12.35

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Re: Re: FireFox 41 Security/Vulnerability Improvements/Fixes ??

You can also use the cyscon anti phishing toolbar, in the interim.

Called cyscon security shield

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cyscon-phishing-protection/

Windows 10 Home X 64
Kudos0

Re: Re: FireFox 41 Security/Vulnerability Improvements/Fixes ??

Hello All

Please read Anita's Announcement in the Toolbars Forum about what the phase 1 release of the Toolbar to be released very soon will contain. I don't have a date, but it does say it's almost done. and ready for release.

Thanks.

Success always occurs in private and failure in full view. Windows 10 Pro 64 bit Norton Core Security Plus 22.17.3.50 Core Firmware 282 I E 11 Chrome latest version.
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Re: Re: FireFox 41 Security/Vulnerability Improvements/Fixes ??

Hi Guys;  I have been following the threads regarding Firefox and Norton and incompatibility with the Norton tool bar.  To keep my computer operating with the toolbar and the Identity Safe intact, I changed my options for firefox to never apply updates.  So, my 40.0.3 Firefox worked till last week and suddenly the toolbar disappeared.  Went back and read some more blogs about the end of October, and as it was at the end of October, I opened the Chrome browser and voila,  the Norton Identity Safe was there.  I moved the bookmarks over and will stay there till Firefox and Norton are compatible again.  Not to take sides, Mozilla is trying their best to make their browser ultra safe for its users and Norton is trying their best to do the same and still make its product compatible with Norton.  Give them both a break, there is nothing malicious going on here.  Patience is a virtue.  Thanks, I feel better now that I have vented.  Y'all have a great day.  

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