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Kudos0

Startin Scan und LiveUpdate Batched

Hello,

I am using Norton Security on 3 computers.
I do a Virus Scan every 2 weeks (a full system scan).
This might be a bit much, but I have seen too many friends loosing their data because of malware.

This scan requires multiple mouse clicks to start (I have the German GUI, so my translations may be not correct):

  • Double-Click the icon in the system tray
  • Click on "Security"
  • Click on "LiveUpdate"
  • If I remember correctly there is sometimes a click necessary to apply the new patch.
  • Click to close the LiveUpdate Window
  • Click on "Perform Scan"
  • Click on "Full System Scan"
  • Click on "Execute"

All together 8 clicks on 3 computers.

I want to create a batch file that

  • Updates Norton (LiveUpdate)
  • Starts a full system scan

I searched the Norton Support and found the following topic:
https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v8278351_ns_r...

Here I have the following questions/comments:

  1. Norton is installed in C:\Program Files (x86)\Norton Security and not in C:\Program Files\Norton Security (reason: I have Windows 10 Pro x64)
    Here the help page should be updated.
     
  2. In C:\Program Files (x86)\Norton Security I have the folders Engine and Engine64.
    I suppose that I should use the folder Engine64 on a x64 system, right?
    This should also be added to the help page.
     
  3. I want to do a Full System Scan, can this performed with the parameter /A (Scans all drives)?
     
  4. I want to run LiveUpdate before the scan.
    How do I do this with the command line?

This way I could create one batch file that is started with one double click.
Thank you for your help.

Greetings

OLLI

Replies

Kudos0

Re: Startin Scan und LiveUpdate Batched

Norton Security is designed with home users in mind. As such it does not have central management features included. You need a business/enterprise product to get those features.

You could just set a custom scan with the schedule you want, 2 weeks. Liveupdate is run automatically anyway and Norton now uses cloud based signatures. So as long as your system is connected to the internet, you have the latest definition information available. Just schedule your scan for a time where you know the computer will be turned on and idle.

Things happen. Export/Backup your Norton Password Manager data.
Kudos0

Re: Startin Scan und LiveUpdate Batched

Hello,

I am a home user.
I have a PC and a laptop and my wife also has a laptop.
I just wanted the virus-scan easier for me (just one click instead of 8 to 10 per computer).

LiveUpdate is not always up to date when the Scan is scheduled.
I have my Laptop normally very seldom running (because I normally work on my PC) so LiveUpdate is not up to date.
Each time I start a scan LiveUpdate has to download some patches.
So can I start LiveUpdate via a batch command?

I would really prefer to start the scan via a batch file.
So I can start when ever the PC is idle (I have the control when it is started).
I just want to have less mouse clicks here...

Greetings

OLLI

Kudos0

Re: Startin Scan und LiveUpdate Batched

Hi OLLI_S,

As I see things, you are making things more difficult than they need to be. Peterweb's suggestion to create a Custom Full System Scan and schedule it for a time frame you will know that your system will be idle requires zero clicks, zero Batch file, and if for some reason the system is not idle at the scheduled time, it will run the next time the system is idle.

You start by selecting the Security Block > Run Scans > Custom Scan > GO > Create a new Scan >Select the Items you desire to Scan > the Schedule you desire to scan them on > and the options (don't forget to name the scan).   Or you could even possibly Select the Full System Scan, schedule it for every 14 days and state only at idle time.

Kudos1 Stats

Re: Startin Scan und LiveUpdate Batched

I'm not sure if there's a big difference, but I'm running Norton Security with Backup (NSBU). I'm doing exactly what you're describing with the attached file, once/week, also on 3 PCs. However, since Norton doesn't catch everything, I'm also running Norton Utilities (to clean up the Registry and remove unwanted Privacy Data various sites put on my PC), SuperAntiSpyware (seems to get rid of tracking cookies better than Norton), Malwarebytes Antimalware (it occasionally finds things the others don't), and the File Cleanup program that's included with Windows (to get rid of temporary files, etc. missed by the others). As you noted, Norton places files in a couple of different locations, but since you're running Win 10 Pro (as I am), the locations should be the same. Here's a caveat I haven't figured out how to deal with - yet. When a patch or other significant update is applied by Norton, the version number will be changed - e.g. in this following line "22.5.5.15" for Live Update: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Norton Security with Backup\Engine64\22.5.5.15\uiStub.exe" /LU /S+ When that happens, Live Update and NS will not run because the location is no longer correct. An error message will display. You'll need to edit the batch file to enter the new version number for both Live Update and NS. Fortunately, patches don’t occur often. The key lines you're looking for are: To run Live Update: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Norton Security with Backup\Engine64\22.5.5.15\uiStub.exe" /LU /S+ To run Norton Securities (full system scan): "C:\Program Files (x86)\Norton Security with Backup\Engine64\22.5.5.15\uiStub.exe" /win8 /S+ If you’re interested, the attached batch file will display a menu allowing you to select which program (other than Live Update and NS) you want to run. You should be able to copy/paste this attached file 'Ablutions.txt' to your Desktop. Review it, then edit and rename it to a Filename of your choice, changing the extension of TXT to BAT. Verify the file locations on your PCs before running. I've added it to my Start Screen for convenience. If you're suspicious that the file may contain malware, respond, and I'll include lesser code in a message window in the Forum. But I suspect Norton verifies uploaded files are problem-free before allowing them to be accessed by others. Meinen Deutsch is nicht so gut, aber Guten Tag. Toyman

[Admin Edit: Removed file attachment]

Kudos0

Re: Startin Scan und LiveUpdate Batched

Hello peterweb, hello yank,

I wrote above that I start the virus scan every 2 weeks when I have time.
This can be in the morning or in the afternoon.
A scheduled scan would not help, because the PC might be turned off or I need all resources.
So a batch file would be the best solution.

Important Question:
In this topic there was an answer from the user Toyman with a batch example.
This seems to be removed, why?

Greetings

OLLI

Kudos0

Re: Startin Scan und LiveUpdate Batched

OLLI_S:

Hello peterweb, hello yank,

I wrote above that I start the virus scan every 2 weeks when I have time.
This can be in the morning or in the afternoon.
A scheduled scan would not help, because the PC might be turned off or I need all resources.
So a batch file would be the best solution.

As I stated above: if for some reason the system is not idle at the scheduled time, it will run the next time the system is idle. This would be self-correcting if the PC were off or not idle.

Important Question:
In this topic there was an answer from the user Toyman with a batch example.
This seems to be removed, why?

Greetings

OLLI

I can see Toyman made a post - but it has not appeared in the forum yet - perhaps awaiting approval of an image or attachment?

Kudos0

Re: Startin Scan und LiveUpdate Batched

The file attachment would have been removed to conform with the forum guidelines. You cannot post executabe files or direct links to executable files.

Things happen. Export/Backup your Norton Password Manager data.
Kudos0

Re: Startin Scan und LiveUpdate Batched

Hello Toyman,

thank you very much for your help, exactly what I need.
But I have some questions about the two lines you sent me.

C:\Program Files (x86)\Norton Security\Engine64\22.5.5.15\uiStub.exe /LU /S+
This line is working, great!
The parameter /LU starts the LiveUpdate, but here I get a GUI that I have to confirm (at least click on OK).
Is there a "silent" way, so I can start the LiveUpdate without having to click anything?
Ans what is the parameter /S+ used for?

C:\Program Files (x86)\Norton Security\Engine64\22.5.5.15\uiStub.exe" /win8 /S+
When I execute this then Norton opens but no scan is started.
So what is the parameter /win8 used for?

Is there somewhere a documentation of all those parameters?
uiStub.exe /? is not working.

Thank you again!

OLLI

Kudos0

Re: Startin Scan und LiveUpdate Batched

OLLI

I do not begin to know what the parameters mean, but I would suggest trying to delete the '+' sign after the S. 

Things happen. Export/Backup your Norton Password Manager data.
Kudos0

Re: Startin Scan und LiveUpdate Batched

Hi Olli,

I'm glad it helped.

The parameter /S+ directs the inclusion of sub-folders.  I suspect the default is S+, but opted to put it in to be sure.  Not sure why it's included in the LU line, but since it works for me, I've left it there. 

Regarding the parameter /win8, I don't remember why I put that there, other than I wrote the batch file while using Win 8 Pro.  I just now ran the file without that parameter and it seemed to make no difference, so I've removed it.  Sorry about the confusion.

To get a little help with command prompt switches, go here. http://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v8278351_ns_retail_en_us?q=running+a+scan+at+the+command+prompt

You may also find some help there about running the prog's in silent mode (perhaps using the -S switch?).  I seem to recall using the executable navw32, located in Engine\22.5.5.15 - NOT in Engine64.  As I recall, it ran & closed without displaying the GUI (sorry, memory lapse on that).  But I wanted to view the scan results in case problems were found, so went back to the GUI version.  Additionally, I prefer the GUI to access functions other than a virus scan.

Re your comment about the file I'd sent being removed, I don't know why that happened since I'd uploaded it as a .txt file.  Perhaps Norton objected to the command lines within the file, which contained .exe file types.  Didn't think of that until now <grin>.

I've spent a lot of time looking, but haven't found a way to invoke and close a GUI via a command prompt.  Use of the tskill command doesn't give the results I need because the invoked program has to end before the next batch line containing tskill is read.

Last thing: I see my previous post was unformatted - paragraph spacing and such - making it hard to read.  Probably operator error here.

Good luck.

Toyman

Accepted Solution
Kudos0

Re: Startin Scan und LiveUpdate Batched

Hello,

I found the solution myself.
It is different to Toyman's solution.

Start Norton LiveUpdate
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Norton Security\Engine\22.5.5.15\navw32.exe" /update

Start a Full System Scan
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Norton Security\Engine\22.5.5.15\navw32.exe" /A

Greetings

OLLI

Kudos1 Stats

Re: Startin Scan und LiveUpdate Batched

Your solution is running both options (Update & Virus Scan) from the 32-bit version of the software.  Since you have a 64-bit PC, the programs will run a bit slower than necessary - you're needlessly tying up resources.  And you still need to click OK when Update & NAVW finishes. However, you're saving a few clicks and navigation time compared to your original situation, so in the long-run, you've made progress.

BTW, If you've configured Automatic Live Update settings to "On", Norton will automatically background-check for updates once/hour.  See https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v1061736_ns_retail_en_us?q=live+update+settings.  Since you originally said you run scans only once every couple of weeks, running LU in the batch file is probably unnecessary.  Check your settings at 'Settings-Antivirus-Updates (tab). 

A final note:  In your original post, you suggested scanning every 2 weeks might seem like a bit much.  Personally, I scan twice/week and if something happens that seems odd, I'll scan again.  The thing about being paranoid is, you only have to be right once.

Toyman

Kudos1 Stats

Re: Startin Scan und LiveUpdate Batched

Hello Toyman,

I had to use navw32.exe instead of uiStub.exe because I did not find a way to start the Full System Scan using uiStub.exe.
So I use my solution, because it is working.

There is also the parameter /automation to run the files silently (without any GUI).
This is working!
Using this parameter you can run LiveUpdate without the confirmation dialog at the end.
And you can run the virus scan without the GUI.
Just add the parameter behind the command where you want to have NO GUI.

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Norton Security\Engine\22.5.5.15\navw32.exe" /update /automation
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Norton Security\Engine\22.5.5.15\navw32.exe" /A /automation

I for myself prefer to see a GUI while the scan is running.
And also to see the GUI at LiveUpdate (so I see that this really was finished).

Greetings

OLLI

Kudos0

Re: Startin Scan und LiveUpdate Batched

HI Olli, Your fix is good stuff to know. But tell me, where did you find the switches to use - e.g. "automation". I have to wonder if Full System Scan is the default. And if it is, is there a way to run a Quick Scan, etc. instead from a command line? Any ideas about that? Thanks for sharing. Toyman

Kudos0

Re: Startin Scan und LiveUpdate Batched

Hello,

I was that cheeky to open a support chat and to ask the support stuff for a solution.
If you find my post useful, please give me some Kudos.
Thank you!

OLLI

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